Aluminum bats in Major Leagues?

Thomas R wrote:
> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you guru's
> believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?
>
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Well I could support the change from wood to something else PROVIDED the
new material had all the (relevant) properties of wood. Namely, it has
to have an impact on the ball the same as wood and when the ball is hit
it has to sound like wood.


dick
-- If it caused the same feeling to go through the batters arms when he
had a perfect hit that would be OK too.
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Thomas R wrote:
> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you guru's
> believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?


Aluminum Bats??? What's next... hitting off a tee?


Wooden bats. The NCAA is even phasing out aluminum bats in favor of
wooden bats.

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The major leagues will never go to aluminum bats. Pitchers are in enough danger
from being struck by a batted ball without cutting down on their reaction time
by using the aluminum bats. it's a safety issue. This is one of the reasons why
the NCAA changed specifications on the aluminum bats and the results were very
noticeable in the college world series.

Thomas R wrote:

> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you guru's
> believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?
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"Thomas R" <Thom.TakeThisOut@erte333tee4f.com> thought hard and said:

>A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
>bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
>expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
>cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
>the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
>dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you guru's
>believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?

Oh, sure, let us have Barry Bonds with a 100+ Home Run season. Nuh-uh.

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Thomas R wrote:
> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about.

OK... GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD... and I'll say it very slowly so that
you and any other dickwad who thinks like you will understand it...

S-A-M-M-Y D-I-D *N-O-T* C-H-E-A-T.

Ya got that?? Can you READ that? Can you COMPREHEND it?

If not, try sounding it out and see if that helps any.

Sammy made a MISTAKE. Plain and simple. Mistakes don't translate to
cheating, and if you think they do, you live in an alternate universe.

--- Cory

> Do you guru's believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?


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On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 15:49:04 GMT, "Thomas R" <Thom.TakeThisOut@erte333tee4f.com>
gave us this:

>A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
>bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
>expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
>cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
>the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
>dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you guru's
>believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?

No.

Did you see the Marlins pitcher get hit in the head with the line
drive off the bat of Todd Walker the other night? If MLB adopted
aluminum bats, there would be a dead pitcher within the first year.

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Work like you don't need money, love like
you've never been hurt, and dance like no
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Dick Sidbury wrote:
> Thomas R wrote:
>
>> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to
>> aluminum
>> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats
>> are
>> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
>> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
>> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will
>> become
>> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you
>> guru's
>> believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Well I could support the change from wood to something else PROVIDED the
> new material had all the (relevant) properties of wood. Namely, it has
> to have an impact on the ball the same as wood and when the ball is hit
> it has to sound like wood.

What is so wrong about the wood? Worried about the cutting down of
trees? Well bats are made from wood grown in tree farms, not cut down
from hiking trails, etc....



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On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:09:08 -0500, Cory
<seekerspamfree.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Thomas R wrote:
>> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
>> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
>> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
>> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
>> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
>> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about.
>
>OK... GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD... and I'll say it very slowly so that
>you and any other dickwad who thinks like you will understand it...
>
>S-A-M-M-Y D-I-D *N-O-T* C-H-E-A-T.
>
>Ya got that?? Can you READ that? Can you COMPREHEND it?
>
>If not, try sounding it out and see if that helps any.
>
>Sammy made a MISTAKE. Plain and simple. Mistakes don't translate to
>cheating, and if you think they do, you live in an alternate universe.

This is quite clearly a sensitive issue with you, but, intentionally
or not, Sosa broke the rules of the game. That is pretty much
"cheating" by definition.

s/

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On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:09:08 -0500, Cory
<seekerspamfree RemoveThis @mindspring.com> gave us this:

>Thomas R wrote:
>> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
>> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
>> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
>> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
>> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will become
>> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about.

>OK... GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD... and I'll say it very slowly so that
>you and any other dickwad who thinks like you will understand it...

>S-A-M-M-Y D-I-D *N-O-T* C-H-E-A-T.

Y-E-S H-E D-I-D.

>Ya got that?? Can you READ that? Can you COMPREHEND it?

>If not, try sounding it out and see if that helps any.

>Sammy made a MISTAKE. Plain and simple. Mistakes don't translate to
>cheating, and if you think they do, you live in an alternate universe.

No, a mistake is when you forget to pick up the loaf of bread that
your wife told you to bring home after work. A mistake is when you
drop the carton of eggs. A mistake is swinging at what you thought
was a fastball, but turns out to be a slider.

Intentionally hollowing out your bat and filling it with a substance
you believe will give you a competitive advantage, in contravention of
the rules, is cheating. Sosa did the latter.

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In article <9cbufv00gg1ifko08mtb0o1mjk65kdn1id RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
Sam Hutcheson <sigma.alpha.mu.howitzer RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Cory <seekerspamfree RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote:

>>S-A-M-M-Y D-I-D *N-O-T* C-H-E-A-T.
>>Ya got that?? Can you READ that? Can you COMPREHEND it?
>>If not, try sounding it out and see if that helps any.
>>Sammy made a MISTAKE. Plain and simple. Mistakes don't translate to
>>cheating, and if you think they do, you live in an alternate universe.

>This is quite clearly a sensitive issue with you, but, intentionally
>or not, Sosa broke the rules of the game. That is pretty much
>"cheating" by definition.

I don't think so. I think cheating, by definition, requires knowledge.
Cheating implies more than mere rulebreaking; it implies intentional
rulebreaking -- or, more specifically, intentional rulebreaking to gain an
advantage.

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"Thomas R" <Thom.RemoveThis@erte333tee4f.com> wrote in
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> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to
> aluminum bats in major leagues.

Kill him before he speaks again
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"Thomas R" <Thom.TakeThisOut@erte333tee4f.com> wrote in message
news:QTDLa.43397$2D1.11265596@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> A colleague of mine indicated the possibility of swiching over to aluminum
> bats in major leagues. One reason why is a cost factor as wooden bats are
> expensive and break often.. The other argument was the mitigation of
> cheating using corked bats. The recent Sammy incident has given fuel for
> the aluminum bat advocates, but I suspect the aluminum bat hype will
become
> dormant once the Sammy cheating incident is forgotten about. Do you
guru's
> believe aluminum bats are in the cards in the near future?
>
>
As I recall, this was looked at, I don't know how seriously, a couple of
years ago. Besides the tradition issue ("crack of the bat" sounds so much
better than "ping of the bat"), major league hitters would put the
infielders in great danger. Besides, who would need a corked bat if they
have an aluminum one? Think of all the tape measure homers.
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